Rewilding

mickysf replied on 23/10/2019 16:11

Posted on 23/10/2019 16:11

Just been reading the latest RSPB magazine and in particular the article about Rewilding. Having read this it seems to me that the notions of Experiencing Freedom and Rewilding make good bed fellows for the future, particularly when considering the economic case as described in the article. I just wonder what other CTers think about the subject. Of interest to me was the £13 million pound injected into the economy of the German Hartz region with the increased tourism generated after the reintroduction of Lynx into the area. 54% of all visitors said that the Lynx were a significant factor in their choice of this area to visit.

Maybe, similar projects could impact equally in areas here in Great Britain. Any thoughts?

Tinwheeler replied on 15/06/2022 08:35

Posted on 15/06/2022 08:35

Same old, Fish. No one can accuse you of changing your tune as you're consistent with your less than pleasant comments about others. 😀

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/06/2022 08:38

Posted on 15/06/2022 08:38

It is the fault of all industry, water companies & Farmers(some) must accept responsibility & make it right. Denial helps no one.

JVB66 replied on 15/06/2022 08:48

Posted on 15/06/2022 08:33 by brue

Unfortunately it's true about water company pollution the public need to ask more questions and demand action. 

Posted on 15/06/2022 08:48

Yes water companies have a big responsibility for poluteing rivers and until massive investment (higher bills for us all) to cope with the fast increasing population and biulding with the resultant pressure on all infrastructure 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/06/2022 08:59

Posted on 15/06/2022 08:01 by Fisherman

Bit like a cuckoo -"change its tune in the middle of June and then flies away".  If you read the papers most of the river polution is not by famrers but by the Water Companies.Likewise Industry is responsible for polutantants and bad gases. Legislation is thre but never used. Its a lot easier to blame farmers when your mouths are full.

Posted on 15/06/2022 08:59

I tried to fill my mouth & blame farmers- no one could understand me🀷🏻‍β™‚οΈπŸ™„

Fisherman replied on 15/06/2022 09:34

Posted on 15/06/2022 09:34

My last comment may need a bit of explaining to some.When the cuckoo came in April the eco warriors who drove Government policy was all about Rewilding and covering the contryside in trees ( No one  knew what species)>Now by June the policy is Intensive farming, acres of Glass hoses etc.  No one asked the actual farmers and growers about this.As any gardner knows you plant is Spring and Harvest in Summer/Autumn. How doyou then suddenly change course in actuallity at the wrong season. Knock on effect, habitats that have been developed for nature are no longer important,plough them up. This is typical Government dictat,change policy before the ink has dried on the last one. Result Chaos and any good work undone.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 15/06/2022 12:51

Posted on 15/06/2022 09:34 by Fisherman

My last comment may need a bit of explaining to some.When the cuckoo came in April the eco warriors who drove Government policy was all about Rewilding and covering the contryside in trees ( No one  knew what species)>Now by June the policy is Intensive farming, acres of Glass hoses etc.  No one asked the actual farmers and growers about this.As any gardner knows you plant is Spring and Harvest in Summer/Autumn. How doyou then suddenly change course in actuallity at the wrong season. Knock on effect, habitats that have been developed for nature are no longer important,plough them up. This is typical Government dictat,change policy before the ink has dried on the last one. Result Chaos and any good work undone.

Posted on 15/06/2022 12:51

I had no issue with understanding at all, in fact you are one of the easiest people on CT to understand Fish-‘you don’t discuss you Troll, you attack, you ignore anything that isn’t agreeing with your agenda. You are a hunting, shooting, fishing hobby farmer with a pet sheep who wishes he was back in the 1950’s when you could do as you like. Trolls just Troll. This is fact not made a made up fairytale. I’m sorry but when you return to Troll you’re on your own. Enjoy your dayπŸ‘πŸ»

Fisherman replied on 15/06/2022 14:40

Posted on 15/06/2022 14:40

I thought my last comment was sensible and showed  how fickle opinion is especially by those who actually pull the strings ( Government) but there you go,it soon gets personal here. By the way whast a troll. Never seen one of them round here.A new species perhaps reintruduced?

mickysf replied on 15/06/2022 17:56

Posted on 15/06/2022 09:34 by Fisherman

My last comment may need a bit of explaining to some.When the cuckoo came in April the eco warriors who drove Government policy was all about Rewilding and covering the contryside in trees ( No one  knew what species)>Now by June the policy is Intensive farming, acres of Glass hoses etc.  No one asked the actual farmers and growers about this.As any gardner knows you plant is Spring and Harvest in Summer/Autumn. How doyou then suddenly change course in actuallity at the wrong season. Knock on effect, habitats that have been developed for nature are no longer important,plough them up. This is typical Government dictat,change policy before the ink has dried on the last one. Result Chaos and any good work undone.

Posted on 15/06/2022 17:56

No, rewilding is not all about covering the countryside in trees, it’s about habitat restoration, very different. It’s about ensuring complex natural ecosystem are given space in this land of ours and are reinstated where possible. There are many farmers who are actually spearheading this vital work however there are some who choose not to and continue to do the damage. To say no one knew the species best included in rewilding projects is not true either, but some did know which were going to be the most economically profitable and attribute false benefits to nature in order to make money. Many of us knew exactly what they were up to but government turned that blind eye to their chums. Just have to look at the flow country in Northern Scotland for the proof! 
As far as those who have polluted our waterways, it matters not a jot if they were the farmers, the water authorities or big business, if it was done deliberately then they have managed to damage systems to such an extent that they are the worst in Europe. 

Fisherman replied on 16/06/2022 08:00

Posted on 16/06/2022 08:00

Rocky.Have never been or participated in your Red coated Hunting.Never been or participated in Tame pheasant shooting -They are the action usually of rich city folk.Yes me and local farmers control the rampant fox and covid population.to an extent we have a thriving Red listed avian population here. Nothing to do with eliimination.

Mick-Yes the mistakesof the 70=s with mass sortwood planting all over the country,particularly the flow country did untold damage.Eliminated prductive and good habiatts for dark wildernesses. The resulting wood is of little commercial use but hey it gave the elites excellent tax benefits.

So just like today all this is driven by action groups influencing Government policy for some untested theory.Those at the sharp end are ignored because they dont have lobbying funds. Result short sighted action, changes of policy at whim, and a ruined countryside. Dont blame us the custodians

JVB66 replied on 16/06/2022 08:23

Posted on 16/06/2022 08:23

Is the NFU. not doing anything to help what in your opinions is detrimental to farmers? or as you post and a few may be "custodians of the countryside?"

 

Ps just a bit of useless information this county has more horses per head of population than any other  County in the UK

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