Rewilding

mickysf replied on 23/10/2019 16:11

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Posted on 23/10/2019 16:11

Just been reading the latest RSPB magazine and in particular the article about Rewilding. Having read this it seems to me that the notions of Experiencing Freedom and Rewilding make good bed fellows for the future, particularly when considering the economic case as described in the article. I just wonder what other CTers think about the subject. Of interest to me was the £13 million pound injected into the economy of the German Hartz region with the increased tourism generated after the reintroduction of Lynx into the area. 54% of all visitors said that the Lynx were a significant factor in their choice of this area to visit.

Maybe, similar projects could impact equally in areas here in Great Britain. Any thoughts?

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Dorset Diver replied on 24/10/2019 08:18

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Posted on 24/10/2019 07:58 by Oneputt

The information I've seen estimates that there are between 2 and 4 million Muntjac's in the SE of England alone, which more that the whole population of them in China. The main reason is we don't tend to eat Muntjac whereas the Chinese do.

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EasyT replied on 24/10/2019 08:19

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Posted on 24/10/2019 07:52 by Dorset Diver

But how?

Posted on 24/10/2019 08:19

Cull them, harvest them, send in the army: mankind seemed to make quite a job of culling its own population in Europe during world wars

Oneputt replied on 24/10/2019 08:22

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Posted on 24/10/2019 08:15 by mickysf

Well some advocate insects as a protein alternative. May be we should consider other environmentally advantageous sources more objectively.

Posted on 24/10/2019 08:22

I wasn't advocating we eat them I was just correcting someones view that were 2 million deer in the UK which is a wild underestimate. There were approx 2000 Muntjac in the UK in 1963 so their growth has be phenomenal. By the way Muntjacs can be shot all year round as they are an invasive species. It is thought that Muntjac are the cause of 42k RTA every year

Oneputt replied on 24/10/2019 08:34

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Dorset Diver replied on 24/10/2019 08:44

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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 24/10/2019 08:49

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Posted on 24/10/2019 08:19 by EasyT

Cull them, harvest them, send in the army: mankind seemed to make quite a job of culling its own population in Europe during world wars

Posted on 24/10/2019 08:49

That’s why Humans are so destructive & savage, the rest of the animal kingdom don’t wage war but they do have a war raged upon them. Sad but very true.

mickysf replied on 24/10/2019 08:51

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Posted on 24/10/2019 08:34 by Oneputt

should read wasn't advocating

Posted on 24/10/2019 08:51

I was Op. Also eat pheasant and rainbow trout but would limit production of these two to those we can use purposefully in our dietary needs. That's where my stance may be different to some. Fishing and shooting should only be for one's table. I will readily admit that I often struggle with this stance and my opinion on the matter may change in the future. That's healthy isn't it, keeping an open mind?

SteveL replied on 24/10/2019 09:02

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Posted on 23/10/2019 16:44 by ABM

Rewilding, Corners, involves the careful & controlled reintroduction of species that have departed from certain areas, either by habitat reduction or hunting or similar.

The claim for introduction of lynx & wolves in the Scottish Highlands for instance is that they would, over time, reduce the numbers of Female deer to tolerable levels. Hunters don't want females, they only want big stags and big displays of antlers. So no hunter will pay for the females tho' butchers might. Why the deer, well they are in big numbers and as such are changing the natural plant growth, to the detriment of capercaillie, grouse & mountain Hare for instance.

Seems reasonable but they've a lot of folk to convince yet I think.

Posted on 24/10/2019 09:02

They certainly have me to convince. Wolves are listed in the Dangerous Wild Animals Act, as a species requiring a licence. To obtain which you have to meet various criteria on containment, protection of the general public etc. They certainly didn't want to let us get off the bus in the Wolf enclosure at Longleat. I don't see that Wolves could be reintroduced safely in this crowded little island of ours. Even in the remoteness of Scotland there are just to many people visiting, walking, cycling, wild camping.

Carefully controlled rewilding ,utilising less dangerous species, I fully support.

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I know your not advocating it ABM, just used your link as it mentioned reintroducing wolves.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 24/10/2019 09:15

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Posted on 24/10/2019 09:02 by SteveL

They certainly have me to convince. Wolves are listed in the Dangerous Wild Animals Act, as a species requiring a licence. To obtain which you have to meet various criteria on containment, protection of the general public etc. They certainly didn't want to let us get off the bus in the Wolf enclosure at Longleat. I don't see that Wolves could be reintroduced safely in this crowded little island of ours. Even in the remoteness of Scotland there are just to many people visiting, walking, cycling, wild camping.

Carefully controlled rewilding ,utilising less dangerous species, I fully support.

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I know your not advocating it ABM, just used your link as it mentioned reintroducing wolves.

Posted on 24/10/2019 09:15

+1👍🏻, the UK is too small an island to both safely or successfully allow a top carnivore like the Wolf to roam free, if it become restricted to an area then it is managed-not wild🤷🏻‍♂️. In vast countries the Wolf isn’t a major worry, we don’t have a vast country.

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mickysf replied on 24/10/2019 09:15

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Posted on 24/10/2019 09:15

Here's an interesting proposition for Rewilding. This species has never been that common in recent decades but when habitats were more available breeding pairs in the British countryside were more abundant. May be there is a case for encouraging more now as the availability of crop pollinators is being adversely effected by mans actions.

https://www.birdguides.com/articles/european-honey-buzzards-prey-on-invasive-hornets/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter231019&eid=597110&_ccCt=Ieup0nmAjGQLGLBOKZ9y8YihQuPfL%7eivqpuPHBUFh48G%7eRAo2a7klc%7egqpRqXqVn

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