LPG/Gas-It for use in Europe

SiLo replied on 15/06/2022 15:41

Posted on 15/06/2022 15:41

Hello,

We're heading off to Europe in a short while for several months, mostly in Scandinavia. I'm think two thirds of the overnights will be off-grid with a third spent on campsites. With this in mind, would it make sense to replace the existing 6 Kg calor with two 6 kg Gas-it bottles which can then be filled from a petrol station? It seems LPG is far more likely to be available than calor. For the times we will be on a campsite we can use EHU.

Interested to hear any alternatives you may have.

The gas will be used to heat water and the van (it could get pretty cold in Norway!) and provide for cooking.

We had entertained the idea of fitting a diesel heater, but decided against drilling holes in the newly purchased van.

Thanks 

Dorset Diver replied on 15/06/2022 16:42

Posted on 15/06/2022 16:42

You will definitely not be able to exchange or fill get Calor cylinders abroad.  Gas-It is one option or maybe Gaslow, but personally I would go for Alugas because of the weight saving. Those three option will need to be installed with an external filler.   Another option is SafeFill and I believe Gaslow do what they call Direct fill cylinders which offer all the advantages of a standard Gaslow refillable gas cylinder but with the added advantage of taking just the bottle to the pump to fill, particularly useful to caravan owners.

SteveL replied on 15/06/2022 17:18

Posted on 15/06/2022 17:18

Unless the Gas it bottles are a fixed installation, like our Gaslow, with a pump filler connection on the outside of the van, you could experience problems in being allowed to fill them. They will also empty fairly fast if you have one of the large fridge freezers. We have only stopped for 3 off grid Nights so far in 22 nights, only heated a bit of water and minimal cooking, as it’s been so hot and have used about 8 kg. Although there will also be a bit of use by the fridge while in supermarkets restocking.

Dorset Diver replied on 15/06/2022 17:58

Posted on 15/06/2022 17:18 by SteveL

Unless the Gas it bottles are a fixed installation, like our Gaslow, with a pump filler connection on the outside of the van, you could experience problems in being allowed to fill them. They will also empty fairly fast if you have one of the large fridge freezers. We have only stopped for 3 off grid Nights so far in 22 nights, only heated a bit of water and minimal cooking, as it’s been so hot and have used about 8 kg. Although there will also be a bit of use by the fridge while in supermarkets restocking.

Posted on 15/06/2022 17:58

Wow Steve.  You have a gas guzzler.  We spent some time in the UK then much of Jan plus Feb, and March "over there" with a significant amount off grid there and back with limited amps on the main site.  I recently topped off our two 11kg Gaslows with just 17.28 Ltrs of LPG between them.  Cost £12.52 and we did not stint on usage as the weather / temperatures over the mountains was well into minus figures.  

SteveL replied on 15/06/2022 18:07

Posted on 15/06/2022 18:07

Those large Dometic fridge freezers, although very useful as we don’t need to shop as often, certainly do guzzle gas when not on EHU. I believe Another David amongst others has experienced the same. Not really a problem, as we don’t intend doing more than 5 / 6 off grid sites on our tour and of course we can refill if required.

SiLo replied on 15/06/2022 18:34

Posted on 15/06/2022 18:34

Hi All,

Really useful info - thank you! We do have a full-height fridge/freezer, so that might be a concern..frown

So, from what I can understand, we wouldn't be able to fix the filler for either gas flo or gas-it within the locker, it would have to mounted externally, on the exterior of the van. Is it a case they don't allow you to fill the cylinders otherwise?

I've also been told that the regulator used for calor, gas-it, gasflo are all different, so you wouldn't be able to have one calor and one gas-it, for example? I liked the idea of having one cylinder that you could exchange with one that you could refill, kind of covering all angles.

Cheers all

 

Dorset Diver replied on 15/06/2022 20:19

Posted on 15/06/2022 18:34 by SiLo

Hi All,

Really useful info - thank you! We do have a full-height fridge/freezer, so that might be a concern..frown

So, from what I can understand, we wouldn't be able to fix the filler for either gas flo or gas-it within the locker, it would have to mounted externally, on the exterior of the van. Is it a case they don't allow you to fill the cylinders otherwise?

I've also been told that the regulator used for calor, gas-it, gasflo are all different, so you wouldn't be able to have one calor and one gas-it, for example? I liked the idea of having one cylinder that you could exchange with one that you could refill, kind of covering all angles.

Cheers all

 

Posted on 15/06/2022 20:19

The best advice is to have the filler mounted externally, however, some do mount them inside the locker door.  I did on our first van and was only refused a fill once. 

If you want to use local cylinders, which is a better bet than being stuck with Calor you can use a Gaslow Local Gas Cylinder Connection Hose which should be used with an externally mounted filler.  

You almost certainly have a bulkhead mounted regulator.  If so it will deal with whatever cylinders are connected to it.  They all just supply LPG. 

I suggest you join Motorhome Fun where you will find a mass of info about gas systems and virtually everything about motorhoming including travelling in Europe.  

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